Exhibit 99.2
Investor Day Transcript
Alex Kovtun Gateway Group (Investor Relations)
Hello everyone and welcome to the Bitcoin Depot Virtual Investor Day. My name is Alex Kovtun of Gateway Group and Id like to thank you for being here and your interest in Bitcoin Depot. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that todays session will be recordedi.
Im going to kick things off today and wanted to give you a brief overview of todays event. In a moment, the Bitcoin Depot team will share an updated investor presentation about their business and well have some time afterward for a Q&A session. We encourage you to share your questions through the chat function at the bottom of the screen or email them to GSRM@gatewayir.com throughout the presentation.
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Before I turn the event over to the speakers, I would like to begin by directing everybody to the disclaimers on the second slide and by reminding everyone that this discussion may contain forward looking statements. Factors that could cause these results to differ materially are available in GSRMs proxy statement filed with the SEC, which can be found on the SECs filing website, sec.gov/edgar. We encourage you to carefully review the disclaimers in the slide presentation. Todays remarks also include certain non-GAAP financial measures, including but not limited to adjusted EBITDA and adjusted gross profit. You can find a reconciliation of such measures in the appendix included in the slide presentation. This presentation does not constitute either advice or a recommendation regarding any securities.
So with that, Id like to pass it over to Gus Garcia from the GSRM team to make some opening remarks. Gus?
Gus Garcia GSR II Meteora Acquisition Corp. (Co-CEO & Director)
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Thank you Alex. We are very pleased to be here with everybody today to discuss our proposed business combination between GSR II Meteora Acquisition Corp. and Bitcoin Depot. Im Gus Garcia, co-CEO of GSR II Meteora. This is our team page. In additional to Lew Silberman whos on this page, Co-CEO of GSR II Meteora with me. Also joining us are Brandon Mintz, Founder & CEO of Bitcoin Depot, and Scott Buchanan, COO of Bitcoin Depot.
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Before I turn it over to the team, I just want to briefly discuss the proposed business combination and why we decided to partner with this team. When we did our IPO, we didnt set out to do a deal with a crypto company, that wasnt our focus. But what we were focused on was combining with a business that was a leader in its space, the number one player, and in an industry that was growing and that we believed would continue to grow over the long-term. And thats exactly what we found in Bitcoin Depot; theyre the largest Bitcoin ATM operator in North America in an industry that has seen tremendous growth. So we said okay check that box, then we decided to dig deeper and we loved what we saw. So theres four things to highlight on what Bitcoin Depot is. Number 1, its easy to transact at a kiosk. You walk up to a Bitcoin ATM, insert cash and within minutes you have Bitcoin sent to your wallet. So very
low barriers to customer entry which we liked. Second thing we liked and were pleasantly surprised by is that there is broad demand for Bitcoin Depots services. We on the SPAC side hadnt used one of these ATMs before and so we initially had trouble visualizing who would want to use them. But the reality is that many people use these Bitcoin ATMs not just for the purpose of obtaining Bitcoin, but rather for practical purposes. So based on user reviews, people use these ATMs as a way to send money to friends and family; its easy to send Bitcoin from one wallet to another. People use these ATMs to make online purchases and pay their bills; there are many ways online to use Bitcoin directly or indirectly for these purposes. Bitcoin Depot is licensed in jurisdictions where required as a money services business, as a money transmitter, so really think of anyone that needs to use cash or desires to use cash in their lives and are looking to access these types of services; those are all potential customers of Bitcoin Depot. Third, very important for us and any money services business is compliance. This was one of the most important factors I would say in our decision to combine with Bitcoin Depot; they have a very strong compliance program so think of things like anti-money laundering, know-your customer; the team will get into details around what the program looks like but needless to say we were very impressed with how robust their compliance program is and we think you will be too. And last thing, actually two things, you dont tend to hear very much in SPAC transactions these days, historical profitability and growth. Bitcoin Depot is a company that has both of those in spades. It generated about $6 million of net income and $30 million of Adjusted EBITDA in 2021 for the full-year and generated $4 million of net income and $30 million of Adjusted EBITDA just in the first nine months of 2022. So a lot of growth embedded in a company with a long history of profitability.
And then its also just as important in our mind to talk about what Bitcoin Depot is not. Its not a vendor of security tokens. Bitcoin is the only crypto that Bitcoin Depot offers. It is not a custodian of customers digital assets, which is very important to all of us in the wake of news from FTX and others. Not an exchange, its not a miner or a lender in any sense of the word. And most importantly, its historical results have not been correlated to the price of Bitcoin. And it makes sense to us when you think back to the use cases; people who are using these ATMs to send money to friends and family, to make online purchases, to pay bills. That demand shouldnt be driven by the price of Bitcoin in deciding whether to use Bitcoin for those transactions.
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Moving on to the next slide, Ill just briefly provide an overview of the transaction to set the stage. We entered into a definitive agreement with Bitcoin Depot back in August of 2022. We remain on track to complete the transaction in the first quarter of this year, subject of course to regulatory and shareholder approval. This slide provides an illustrative summary which my colleague Lew will get into more detail so suffice it to say were very excited about the transaction and with that, Im very pleased to introduce Brandon Mintz, Founder & CEO of Bitcoin Depot.
Brandon Mintz Bitcoin Depot (Founder & CEO)
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Thanks Gus and thank you everyone for joining our investor day. Were super excited to partner with the GSRM team and continue our mission of bringing Crypto to the Masses as a public company. And with that being said, Im very happy as well to announce some of our Q3 22 results with you which you can view on this slide. As youll see we produced very strong results even in light of extreme Bitcoin price volatility and decline during 2022. Id also like to call out that weve recently appointed a new CFO, Glen Leibowitz who just came from Acreage Holdings, a public company, and who also worked at Apollo Global Management and helped take them public over a decade ago.
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And with those recent developments in mind Id like to give you a little history on how Bitcoin Depot was founded. Essentially once I had just heard about Bitcoin I was very eager to buy it and I tried to buy it on a very well-known online exchange. I had a lot of difficulty in getting my verification approved, communicating back with support, etc. and ultimately after a few weeks I still didnt have my Bitcoin. I found another way to buy it with cash that was super easy, super quick, super convenient and removed a lot of the hurdles and frustrations that I had on the online exchange. So after discovering the solution and using it multiple times, I wanted to bring this to a broader audience. And ultimately those events led me to start Bitcoin Depot in 2016 in Atlanta, Georgia with just a few machines and expand our mission of bringing crypto access to everyone. And therefore since then, weve been trying to build the largest retail network of crypto access points possible.
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And heres an overview of our executive team. They all have extremely deep industry experience and a few of them also have experience from Cardtronics, which has really laid the foundation on how to complete M&A in the ATM space. So Im very happy to have this experience on board and I think its going to be extremely useful for us in our consolidation strategy as a public company.
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This slide represents a snapshot of the business with some interesting stats. Of course, youll notice we have 7,000 Bitcoin ATMs that are very widely distributed across the US and Canada with still potential to expand further in those markets and well get into that opportunity on a later slide. But youll also notice weve done nearly $1.5 billion and transaction volume since the company was founded with close to half of that $649 million happening in the last 12 months ending in Q3. And of course, weve maintained our very strong margins as well at 52% youll see on the bottom right. Weve also had very strong EBITDA in the last 12 month period ending in Q3 ending at $35 million.
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Heres some really interesting stats on cash usage in the US. Contrary to certain beliefs, cash usage has actually increased 2021 versus 2020 at 20% of all payment transactions in the US and cash in circulation has also increased over recent years.
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And here is an illustrative overview on how transactions are completed at our Bitcoin ATMs. Its as simple as downloading the Bitcoin Depot Wallet app or any other bitcoin wallet app of your choosing. But we of course recommend the Bitcoin Depot wallet because it is completely self-custodial. Bitcoin Depot does not maintain custody of users funds with this wallet. And regardless of what happens with Bitcoin depot as a company, that users funds can remain a lot safer versus other custodial options. But when you have our wallet app, youll see all of our locations. Youll see your BDCheckout locations, which is our no hardware solution to buy Bitcoin with cash that well get into on a later slide. And youll see all of our Bitcoin ATM locations. And once you find a location for a Bitcoin ATM do of course go there and you will complete the steps on the screen and one of the first steps is to choose the tier for
the amount you would like to purchase. And, and the reason why we have these tiers is because the KYC requirements vary per tier, and they get more sophisticated the higher amount somebody purchases. So once you select how much youre going to buy, youll then open your Bitcoin Depot Wallet app or the other app of your choice. Youll open the QR code displayed on the screen youll scan it at our Bitcoin ATM, youll insert cash and Bitcoin will be on the way to your wallet immediately and the whole process only takes about one to two minutes.
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On this side youll see an overview of our flow of funds. Whats very important to note is again that Bitcoin Depot does not hold custody of any of our users funds. We only hold a small inventory of Bitcoin that we replenish throughout the day. Its typically less than half a million dollars at any given time. And as transactions come in, and Bitcoin is sent to our users, we replenish that hot wallet continuously throughout the day in very small increments through an API with our trading partner, Cumberland that youll see on the screen. So it allows us to take advantage of dollar cost averaging techniques and really reduce our price exposure to Bitcoin.
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On this screen, youll see many other reasons on why people like to use Bitcoin Depot. Most importantly its one of the only methods that allows users to buy Bitcoin with cash and super convenient over 15,000 locations. 7,000 of them being our Bitcoin ATMs and over 8,000 being our BDCheckout locations. We also offer amazing customer support that is very quick to respond over email, over text, or phone calls and chat so we really provide a more personalized and quick experience than a lot of the other industry options.
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And heres a slide showing some of our survey data and this is direct data provided from users that have completed transactions with us. Youll notice on the top left that between online purchases and money transfer or remittances, about two thirds of our users who answered these surveys say that theyre using Bitcoin for these purposes. So it really just shows that the customer base for Bitcoin Depot ATMs are very different than that of an online exchange. We have a lot less people using Bitcoin ATMs and therefore Bitcoin for investment in store of value and converting to other cryptocurrencies versus a lot of other online options. And on the right, youll notice our median transaction size has increased quite rapidly over the past couple years and that has translated to very strong revenue growth as well.
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And here youll see a lot of the reasons why retailers love working with Bitcoin Depot. One thing unique about our business model versus almost every other products and convenience and grocery store is that we typically pay a flat monthly rent to these retailers, regardless of the performance of our Bitcoin ATMs. And so this really allows that retailer to understand the value that theyre going to receive for the space they provide. All theyre providing besides the space is just a power outlet and thats it. Our Bitcoin Depot ATMs are completely turnkey and we manage absolutely everything else. Of course another benefit that we provide to the retailers is the digital marketing that drives in the foot traffic that ultimately uses our Bitcoin ATMs. And its possible that the foot traffic that is our customers also becomes customers of that retailer buying other products and using other services and their stores.
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We also take compliance extremely seriously and its one of our biggest differentiators in house we have 13 full time compliance people with some additional personnel as contractors and combined we have over 100 years of compliance experience and this really helps us implement and manage the day to day processes from our AML Compliance Program, which includes monitoring transactions reporting on potentially suspicious activity, responding to law enforcement requests, and supporting our operations.
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Heres just a little bit more information on our compliance program and what exactly we do. Its important to note that all of our transactions are screened against various sanctions lists, including the OFAC list. Some of you are familiar CTRs which is what banks file when customers complete transactions of $10,000 or more. We have those same requirements and are required to report those transactions as well. We also complete blockchain monitoring that allows us to see where the Bitcoin is being sent to on our IRS transactions. And we even employ advanced tools like case management to help organize your data as well as proactively report suspicious activities.
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This slide is really an overview on some of the highlights that weve touched on so far. Of course, the adoption of cryptocurrencies has grown dramatically over the past few years. And thats really helped our business as well and helped us increase revenues to allow us to grow to where we are today at roughly 7,000 Bitcoin ATMs. And one thing really unique about this business in this business model as well, compared to a lot of other targets of SPAC is that we have really strong historical growth and profitability and our transaction volumes have historically not been correlated to the price and volatility of Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies. Theres also a ton of growth opportunities for us both organically and inorganically through existing partnerships, like Circle K, for example. Were in close to 2,000 of their stores today, but they have 15,000 stores globally. So weve already laid the foundation for growth ahead with the existing retail relationships that we have with them and plenty of others. And with our new products BDCheckout being so scalable and being able to get into over 8,000 retail locations in just a few months theres an opportunity to expand our partnerships there with various payment processors and various retailers. And most importantly, is the conduct consolidation opportunity in front of us with so many operators in the space and the space being very fragmented with our vertically integrated platform of owning our own software we think there is an enormous opportunity in front of us to roll up our competition and bring more and more Bitcoin ATMs in house on our existing software and lastly, international expansion. About 95% of all Bitcoin ATMs in the world are in the US and Canada. And the international market is virtually untapped. So we think in the coming years, theres a really good opportunity for us to expand outside of North America.
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On the left side, youll see some of the growth here of the entire Bitcoin ATM market over the years. Its grown considerably fast and some estimates say its even grown faster than when ATMs first came out. And at this growth rate, its very possible that Bitcoin ATMs will be as prevalent as cash ATMs within the next decade or so. And on the right side, youll see the annual transaction volumes of some of the largest payment networks in 2021. And youll notice that Bitcoin was actually processing more transaction volume than both AmEx and discover combined.
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On this slide, we highlight an attractive opportunity within the state of New York. This is where weve applied for a money transmitter type license called Bitlicense. We currently have no estimates on being approved for that license, but we think it could happen at some point in the near future. However, we do believe that the New York market is very under supplied with Bitcoin ATMs. Today, theres less than 200 Bitcoin ATMs in New York. And if you look at Florida, which has roughly the same population as New York State, theres over 3,000 Bitcoin ATMs. So this kind of tells us that theres a lot of potential demand for our products in New York State and we hope to be able to expand there at some point in the future. And on the right side, youll see the top 10 Bitcoin ATM operators in the US and Canada. And this is really just to give you an idea of how large some of these other players are and where we can potentially expand our reach in addition to consolidating other smaller Bitcoin ATM operators as well.
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Here we highlight our relationship with Circle K, like I mentioned on the previous slide we have close to 2,000 Bitcoin ATMs at their stores, and theyve been extremely pleased with this program. It was a pretty competitive environment when we were first bidding on this contract and Circle K called out they were very impressed with our compliance program and our ability to prove our scalability to that as well. And that ultimately led them to choose us as an operator, and youll see a quote from one of their most senior executives on this slide and on the right youll see some descriptions of some of the other major retailers we work with as well.
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On this slide, youll get an illustration of our revenue growth over the past few years and some of the important milestones that Ive already mentioned. But youll see we really kind of skyrocket in the past couple of years since 2020. And with that being said, I will pass it over to our COO Scott Buchanan to walk you through the business performance, the new product I touched on BDCheckout, as well as our financials.
Scott Buchanan Bitcoin Depot (COO)
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Thanks, Brandon. The slide highlights how our transaction volumes have remained strong despite the volatility in the price of Bitcoin. If you look at our historical transaction volume, it hasnt been correlated to the overall price of Bitcoin. And as Brandon touched on earlier, this is driven by the various use cases for Bitcoin that our users purchase, such as remittance, money transfer, online purchases, which make us less susceptible to the price movements of Bitcoin compared to other exchanges, where their customers are largely buying for price volatility and upside.
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On this slide, we wanted to highlight our current user cohort analysis. So one of the questions we always get is how much of your growth is driven by the deployment of new kiosks but if you look on the left hand side, you can see that in 2020, we deployed 900 kiosk and those kiosks grew substantially from their first year in operation in 2020, to the volume that they had in 2021. And this is a trend we continue to see with our new deployments in 2022 as well, where we see kiosks ramp up in volume over time as they continue to attract customers and generate additional volume.
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On this slide, we highlight BDCheckout. As Brandon mentioned, this product allows customers to load cash to their digital wallet, where they can purchase Bitcoin right at the counter at participating retailers. This product is currently in over 8,000 locations and it doesnt require us to deploy a physical kiosk and this partnership with a leading global payments supplier company. This process of BDCheckout is really straightforward. You just download our mobile app, you generate a barcode on the app and you scan it at the retail counter to checkout and this allows users to purchase cryptocurrency and many more locations than just where we have kiosks deployed thats allowing us to reach numerous customers much more quickly than we could through deploying kiosks alone.
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Another big recent development for us was our acquisition of BitAccess, BitAccess is a leading Bitcoin ATM operating software provider, and they provide operating software to us and many other operators of Bitcoin ATMs around the world. The strategic acquisitions allowed us to own our software platform expand the product offerings significantly adding features to the kiosk. This is going to continue to be strategic for us as we evaluate potential M&A activity, as well as expanding the use of BitAccess software platform for other operators. And were going to benefit from this economies of scale as we focus on our M&A strategy and roll up other competitors with this technology.
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On this slide, we highlight some of the future growth opportunities including adding credit and debit functionality to the kiosks since currently theyre focused on cash to crypto. We also believe theres opportunities for international expansion as Brandon touched on earlier with North America currently being the vast majority of all Bitcoin ATMs. And then weve also got a focus on industry consolidation, which weve highlighted a few times. There are operators in the space that we regularly evaluate for potential opportunities regarding our competitors and we believe theres a lot of interest for the consolidation of the space going forward. Were also looking to add additional consumer facing financial services so we can continue to serve our core customer basis. And were always exploring new opportunities for our customers to use our kiosks with additional functionality. And lastly, with the BitAccess, acquisition, were focused on offering other software products b2b to other Bitcoin ATM operators.
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And lastly, a quick overview of our financial results. In 2021. We achieved $549 million of revenue, $5.9 million of net income and $30 million of adjusted EBITDA. That momentums carried us into 2022 as we delivered $497 million of revenue, $4 million of net income and $30 million of adjusted EBITDA during just the first nine months of 2022. Ill now pass it over to Lew from the GSR team to cover the transaction process.
Lew Silberman GSR II Meteora Acquisition Corp. (Co-CEO & Director)
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Thanks, Scott. So just moving back to highlight some key aspects of the transaction. So we expect the business combination to result in up to approximately $170 million of cash added to Bitcoin Depots balance sheet, assuming no redemptions. From a valuation perspective that applies the transaction value between roughly $650 and $750 million and an equity value of roughly between $625 and $885 million depending on the level of redemptions. The equity rollover to Bitcoin Depot will be about $450 million and that would translate to between 51% and 71% ownership for existing Bitcoin Depot shareholders again depending on the level of redemptions. Theres also an earn out structure in the transaction with 5 million shares for existing Bitcoin Depot shareholders at $12, $14, and $16. And finally, theres a $15 million secondary minimum potentially more depending on proceeds generated, and that would be net of expenses and debt paid down. Happy to discuss the transaction more during the Q&A portion as well.
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This next slide is really important because it underscores some of the key points that Brandon and Scott have talked about, which is the Bitcoin Depot has not historically been correlated to the price of Bitcoin and the underlying volatility in the crypto market. So on the slide, you can clearly see that Bitcoin itself was down around 60% from the end of Q1 2022 to the end of Q3 2022. And actually if you look at it for the beginning of calendar year 22, it was down by even more. And over the course of that period, we saw many, many headwinds in the market, such as the bankruptcies of Three Arrows, Voyager, the liquidation of Terra USD, and the issues that we saw at Celsius. So unsurprisingly, you can see that Coinbase for example, their revenue was down 50% during that period, and of course, its not just Coinbase has been impacted its the miners, which is Riot, Hive, and Marathon have all been significantly down as well. So well, while the market has done that, despite all these headwinds, we continued to deliver very strong performance. Our revenue was roughly 8% between Q1 and Q2 of last year and it was up 13% between Q1 and Q3 of last year. So again, this underscores just how robust the business is and how its not correlated to the historical volatility in the crypto market.
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Turning to valuation, the way that we thought about Bitcoin Depot was to compare it to other established money transfer payment processing businesses, like MoneyGram, PayPal, and others. We think this makes sense because the mission of the company is to enable customers to transact on everyday activities using Bitcoin from payables to sending money transfers for a variety of other use cases. So we believe this concept represents a very fair comparison to Bitcoin Depots business. Bitcoin Depot is already at a significant scale as you can see on the slide as of September 30th last year. They generated about $650 million of LTM revenue with $100,000 net loss and nearly $35 million of LTM Adjusted EBITDA. Their LTM Adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of adjusted gross profit of 52% margins is also very strong and ultimately we believe were pricing this transaction attractively relative to the peer metrics that you see on this slide.
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And finally, just to leave you with a few takeaways, the first we believe Bitcoin Depot is benefiting from the continued mainstreaming of Bitcoin into the financial system. The company is very well positioned to capitalize on their position in the market. Theyre supporting users that just prefer to use cash or need to use cash in order to purchase Bitcoin in very convenient ways. Second, they are the largest Bitcoin ATM operator in North America with a network currently of seven thousand kiosks and 8,000 access
points under the BDCheckout product significantly ahead of their competition. Third, the company has very strong key retail relationships such as Circle K. They also have a number of name brand retailers and pharmacies through BDCheckout. Fourth, the companys evaluating number of expanded offerings as discussed earlier partnering with additional retailers such as the convenience store and gas station chains that we detailed in a press release earlier this morning. Additionally, Bitcoin Depots considering paths for international expansion and opportunistic M&A, as discussed earlier and also we a see a potentially significant organic growth opportunity should we successfully complete our New York Bitlicense application process. And finally, the company has been consistently profitable. Its a testament to the fact that Bitcoin Depot transaction volumes have not historically been correlated with the volatility of Bitcoin. And that is truly a unique attribute among cryptocurrency focused businesses. So that wraps up our presentation. Thank you again to everyone for your time and attention and were happy to take your questions from here. Its back to you, Alex.
Alex Kovtun Gateway Group (Investor Relations)
Thanks Lew. We will now move to the Q&A portion of the investor day event. Participants can submit questions using the chat function on the lower portion of your screen or email those questions to us at GSRM@gatewayir.com. We will take a moment to compile the list.
Alex KovtunSo the first question we have is for the Bitcoin Depot team. The question says, can you discuss Bitcoin Depots competitive advantage versus other crypto ATM operators? What role does your compliance team and acquisition of bid access plan that advantage?
Brandon MintzThanks Alex. Ill take that one. But for us, BitAccess really provides a cost structure advantage prior to BitAccess we were paying a licensing fee to another software provider and weve now nearly eliminated that entire cost. And additionally, having that software in house and being vertically integrated, really provides us with a much better opportunity for M&A activity and adding additional future functionality. And us being the largest Bitcoin ATM operator in the space we also have likely the best economies of scale with a large number of our vendors compared to smaller operators in the space. And of course, you know, we believe we also have the strongest compliance team and most sound compliance infrastructure in the industry and along with our operations experience from Cardtronics and the Circle K contract we really believe that we are in the strongest position.
Alex Kovtun Great thanks Brandon. The next couple of questions focus on your kiosks and kiosk unit economics in more detail. So can you touch on what is the typical revenue EBITDA, ROI and breakeven for a kiosk and what is the usual lead time to purchase a kiosk?
Scott BuchananThanks Alex. So revenue and EBITDA up for kiosk can actually be calculated at a high level using the KPIs and our proxy that we think are really informative. For example, in Q3, we had 6,700 kiosks installed at the end of the quarter. And that works out to $26,000 of revenue for the quarter for a kiosk, and then $1,700 of EBITDA per kiosk for the quarter and thats fully burdened with the SG&A costs. And then if you look at the kiosk profitability without SG&A, the breakeven on a kiosk is about 13 months for us as a kiosk initially costs us around $7,000. As far as the lead time to purchase a kiosk, we can get new kiosks in a very short time, within a week or so. And then for larger quantities as long as we plan in advance we havent seen any issues with supply chain of getting large quantities within a month or two.
Alex Kovtun - Great thank Scott. Couple questions came in specifically talking about active users and your customer base. So the first question asks about the 25,000 monthly active users in September 2022 that was in the presentation. Can you provide additional details on what percent were repeat work versus new users?
Brandon Mintz - Ill take that one. So off the top of my head, we dont have exact data on that but what I do know is that the majority of our repeat users of that number.
Alex Kovtun - Great thanks Brandon. And on that topic of your customers. Could you provide additional details on repeat transactions across the key customer buckets that you highlighted? And are there any differences in how frequently they use your product?
Brandon Mintz - We actually dont have that broken out that way, readily available, so I wont be able to go into further detail there.
Alex Kovtun - Got it and then one more on the customer front. What is the customer acquisition cost for typical customer and the LTV?
Scott Buchanan - Yeah, so our typical customer acquisition cost if we look at the past two quarters would work out to about $50 and the LTV is a roughly $1,000 of transaction fee revenue.
Alex Kovtun - Great thanks Scott. Another question that came in is asking you about your acquisition strategy. So can you discuss your acquisition strategy going forward for kiosks and other services? And do you have a goal in mind for the number have installed kiosks as you consolidate the industry?
Brandon Mintz - We plan to really focus horizontal acquisition of other Bitcoin kiosk operators and were really looking for the ones that have the strong retail contracts. And of course that are at attractive valuations and also making sure that they followed similar compliance requirements to us.
Alex Kovtun Thanks Brandon. The next question is asking about your sales force. So what is the size of your sales force and will you add personnel as you scale?
Brandon Mintz - Our current sales force is around a dozen people. And the outbound sales team really focuses on enterprise level contracts where we can get very large number of locations per person. So we dont really expect to add material amounts of additional salespeople in the future.
Alex Kovtun - Great thanks Brandon. The next question coming in is asking about your retail partnerships. Can you discuss your retail partnership pipeline and are you in discussion with any major grocers?
Brandon Mintz - So what I what I can say without speaking about the future and whats not public is we released a press release this morning with a lot of recent retailers that weve signed up or expanded into additional stores with over the last half of 2022. And were always in discussions with several convenience store chains and grocery store chains and other types of retail outlets. And we believe our pipeline is very strong at the moment and will continue to be.
Alex Kovtun - Got it the next question coming in is asking you about your BDCheckout offering. Can you speak to the rollout of your BD checkout offering and hows that going? And can you share any recent progress? Are you seeing similar KPIs and utilization rates as your kiosks?
Scott Buchanan - Thanks Alex. Ill take that one. The rollout is going well. Weve got the checkout operational in over 8,000 locations now. In the most recent proxy filing you can see specific volumes for BDCheckout year to date. Weve been happy with the results so far and were continuing to focus on expanding that product offering. As far as similar KPIs to the kiosks we dont expect to see the same volume per location look as BDCheckout as we can get with a physical kiosk presence. But we continue to focus on marketing and product and driving growth through BDCheckout.
Alex Kovtun - Great thanks Scott. Next question that we have is taking a look at the companys growth. The question asks what does the company look like in three to five years? Do you have any targets for long term growth, kiosk footprint or margins? And what levers do you have to enhance gross profit and Adjusted EBITDA margins as you scale?
Scott Buchanan - Ill take that one as well. So we expect to expand geographically for sure. And that is within the US through M&A and other acquisitions like Brandons touched on a few times and then also were going to explore International, but we havent made any decisions there yet. As far as releasing specific long term targets, were not ready to do that yet. Were focusing on long term planning and we may release more in the future, but right now, no specific targets long term, but we definitely do have numerous levers in our cost structure to increase margins. Were already seeing that were getting a better ratio of SG&A to revenue as we continue to expand vendor pricing. Were always focusing on the best vendor pricing and renegotiating there and thats continuing to prove as well. And then the markup percentage can always be varied. Were always running price experiments to make sure that we have the optimized pricing for customers to run profitably with our business.
Alex Kovtun - Great thanks Scott. Another question that came in is talking about some of your use cases. So you discuss money transfer and remittance being a large use case for your customers. What are the barriers to entry from a competitive standpoint, if Western Union or MoneyGram wanted to enter the space?
Brandon Mintz - Ill take that one. First of all, Western Union MoneyGram are large legacy businesses and it would be a massive pivot for them to expand and to the Bitcoin space directly offering that to their customers. But also you got to understand money transfer slash remittances is just one part of the use cases on what people are using their Bitcoin for after they buy from Bitcoin Depot. Its not just about the use case and we dont see ourselves as a competitor to Western Union and MoneyGram. A lot of it is the convenience of having Bitcoin and being able to do everything from your phone. And of course, we know underbanked and unbanked users and people in the cash economy have to physically go out a lot of times to buy prepaid cards, use bill pay kiosks, check cashing services, use Western Union and MoneyGram to complete transactions. But now they can complete nearly all of those alternative financial services transactions from the phone using just Bitcoin. So its not just comparing us to money remittance companies, you got to think about all of the convenience that is added by having a Bitcoin wallet for those types of people.
Alex Kovtun - Thanks Brandon. The next question weve received is talking about the recent increase in the price of Bitcoin. So have you seen any noticeable changes in transaction volumes year to date 2023 as the price of Bitcoin has increased to about 21,000?
Scott Buchanan - Yeah, Ill take that one, Alex. So I think we just refer back to our slide that shows weve historically not been correlated the price of cryptocurrency and then we just we arent ready to speak to 2023 results at this time as the price has just recently moved up and were still havent released Q4 yet.
Alex Kovtun Great thanks Scott. The next question is just talking more broadly about going public. So can you talk about what made you decide that nows the right time to go public? Why would the GSRM team rather than IPO and how will becoming a public company help me competitively?
Brandon Mintz - I think were really at the point in the industry where consolidation is extremely valuable and us as a company of Bitcoin Depot, we just wanted the fastest path to be able to complete a lot of that M&A and the SPAC route really just made the most sense for us and choosing the GSRM team with their vast experience over the past decade or so in SPAC has really allowed us to navigate this process a lot quicker and better than we might have on our own. So all in all, you know, we think going public will really help us achieve that M&A strategy and accelerate our growth tremendously.
Alex Kovtun Great thanks Brandon. Follow up question about your retail partnerships. How does Bitcoin Depot select its retail partners? Can you discuss what a typical retailer partnership looks like for your kiosks?
Brandon Mintz Yeah sure. So we typically look for retailers that have locations that are very accessible to our customers so long operating hours typically in medium to high populated areas and of course they have to have the space available to work with us. And typically our contract is around five to seven years with those retailers and we usually pay a flat monthly rent for each store where we placed the kiosk.
Alex Kovtun - Got it. Another question we have is just talking more broadly about some of your KPIs. So which KPI should investors be most focused on to measure the progress and ultimate success of the business going forward?
Scott Buchanan - Yeah, Ill take that one. In our proxy filing, weve got four KPIs listed, which we think are good ones for investors to focus on. And thats the location counts for kiosks and at BDCheckout, the percentage of our customers that are returning customers, and then median transaction size, and we think those give a good sense of the pulse on the business and how were performing over time.
Alex Kovtun - Great thanks Scott. Going back to some of your growth plans, how are you thinking about growth going forward, as it relates to your kiosks versus your BDCheckout offering?
Brandon Mintz - We really foresee our kiosks still continuing to be the majority of our revenue and profitability and our growth just because its been developed for so many years. We think this speedy BDCheckout product will be successful because its so scalable. We turned on over 8,000 locations in a matter of months, but we dont expect it to be quite as profitable on a per location basis and also the maximum transaction sizes are smaller. So we really plan to pursue a high hybrid approach of both products but still getting most of our revenue from the kiosk..
Alex Kovtun - Got it and moving on to your marketing strategy. Can you guys talk about your marketing strategy and how youre able to attract users to the kiosks? Is it mostly through word of mouth or do you spend any money to drive foot traffic?
Brandon Mintz - Well, since there arent Bitcoin ATMs at every convenience store and gas station and grocery store like there are with ATMs typically today we do have to drive that traffic in and so we really focus on digital marketing, primarily through a Google search results and social media where customers have the intent to purchase Bitcoin. And what we have seen as well is from our survey data once people use Bitcoin Depot ATMs, word of mouth does spread pretty heavily.
Alex Kovtun - Got it thats helpful. If we could talk about the kiosks again for a moment. Another question we receive is asking what is the durability of your kiosks and do they need a lot of maintenance once installed?
Scott Buchanan - Ill take that one Alex. They typically need less than one service call per year where we hire a third party tech support company to go out and perform a maintenance call. And over the six years of operations so far less than 1% of the kiosks have been taken out of service. So theyre shown to have a really long lifecycle and we dont have a lot of maintenance on the kiosks.
Alex Kovtun Great thanks Scott. Moving on to your geographic expansion plans. Can you discuss those and are you focused on North America or will you explore additional markets once public?
Brandon Mintz - I can take that one. So right now still really focused on North America and just the M&A strategy there but we do hope to expand further internationally in the coming years. We just dont know exactly when that would be and which countries exactly we would start.
Alex Kovtun - Got it. Moving on maybe to your compliance. Is your compliance team large enough to handle proper monitoring of transactions today?
Brandon Mintz - Yeah, definitely. The key for us is weve just automated a lot of systems to really cut down on the manual workload that these compliance people have so that they can truly focus on monitoring accounts and reviewing activity and filing reports versus a lot of the kind of day to day admin work that other operators may have for this type of staff without the systems that we have in place.
Alex Kovtun Great and then touching on your capital allocation priorities going forward. Can you discuss those and how should investors think about those once youre a public company?
Scott Buchanan - Yeah, our primary priority for capital allocation is going to be the M&A strategy again, we think thats really key for us going forward and we want to primarily allocate capital to that priority.
Alex Kovtun - Great, maybe moving on now to your financial performance. How should investors think about your financial performance in 2023 given the strong results that youve disclosed so far?
Scott Buchanan - Yeah, so we havent released formal guidance for 2023 yet or a full financial plan. But in the proxy that we have released were targeting $48 million of EBITDA for 2023 and that includes all the extra costs of being a public company baked so more growth than that but burdened down by the public company costs.
Alex Kovtun - Okay great. We have a question here for the GSRM team. Can you guys touch on any updates on the shareholder vote? And whats the next step in the business combination process?
Gus Garcia - Good question. I think what we can say publicly is what weve said at the outset, which is closing is expected Q1 of this year, so there hasnt been a change to that. I encourage folks to review all of our SEC filing, keep track there when here is a shareholder vote. It will be communicated through the SEC. So everythings on track is what I would say. And just keep your eyes out for communications.
Alex Kovtun - Great thanks Gus. Looks like the last question weve received is going back to the Bitcoin Depot team. Can you guys discuss what a potential recession effect would that have on your business?
Brandon Mintz - I can take that one. Its really hard to know for certain, but of course over the past year, theres already been an economic decline to a certain extent and weve performed quite well but one thing that comes with a recession is usually less consumer spending and less discretionary income as well. But given the use cases of our business for what people use their Bitcoin for, we think our revenues could be a lot more consistent versus a lot of other industry players.
Great thanks Brandon. So it appears weve answered all the questions that have come in so far. So that does conclude our Q&A session. So thank you all for your time and questions. I wish everybody a great rest of the day.
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